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waybackexchange2020-01-16 03:14 pm
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2020 Schedule + Eligibility Post
Hi there, and welcome back! I had a fun time last year, so let's go for a second round, shall we? Below is the schedule for 2020 - modified slightly so that reveals are sliiiightly earlier.
Eligibility Review Period: January 16 - 28
Nominations: January 28 - February 11
Sign Ups: February 16 - March 1
Assignments will be sent by: March 6
Works due: April 30
Works Revealed: May 14, 9 AM MST
Authors Revealed: May 21
The pinned FAQ post, as well as the DW profile, has been updated with the 2020 schedule. Remember, for this year's round, the new cut off for fandoms is December 31, 2010. A new decade!
This post will also function as the eligibility post, for any fandoms you wish to nominate that you believe are on the line. Fandoms that were accepted last year will be automatically accepted this year, no need to make a case for those. The tagset is here if you wish to take a look.
When making your case, please include the canon's full name (as you would nominate it in the tagset), the date(s) of all the canon material that has been released, and your reasoning as to why I should accept it. Here's an example:
In cases of tie-in comics and novels, my rule of thumb is: 1. are the tie-ins well known? 2. are they by the same creators? and 3. does it clearly follow the original canon in terms of continuity/characters? If the answer is "no" to at least two of these, I won't consider them as disqualifying material. If you disagree with me about a particular judgment call, feel free to point out why - I'm not super familiar with everything, and Google can only do so much!
Lastly: you can comment here anonymously, and commenting here with your fandom does not qualify as an actual nomination. The tagset/collection for 2020 are not up yet, but I will add links to the pinned post once they are.
Nominations: January 28 - February 11
Sign Ups: February 16 - March 1
Assignments will be sent by: March 6
Works due: April 30
Works Revealed: May 14, 9 AM MST
Authors Revealed: May 21
The pinned FAQ post, as well as the DW profile, has been updated with the 2020 schedule. Remember, for this year's round, the new cut off for fandoms is December 31, 2010. A new decade!
This post will also function as the eligibility post, for any fandoms you wish to nominate that you believe are on the line. Fandoms that were accepted last year will be automatically accepted this year, no need to make a case for those. The tagset is here if you wish to take a look.
When making your case, please include the canon's full name (as you would nominate it in the tagset), the date(s) of all the canon material that has been released, and your reasoning as to why I should accept it. Here's an example:
Ella Enchanted - Gail Carson Levine (1997)
A prequel, Ogre Enchanted, was published in 2018. While the events of Ogre take place in the same timeline/continuity, it follows a main character who did not appear in Ella. The main cast of Ogre is for the most part completely separate, apart from two characters (their identities being spoilers) who were extensively mentioned in Ella, but appeared only briefly in the original book. Therefore, I feel as if the two novels should be considered separate canons.
In cases of tie-in comics and novels, my rule of thumb is: 1. are the tie-ins well known? 2. are they by the same creators? and 3. does it clearly follow the original canon in terms of continuity/characters? If the answer is "no" to at least two of these, I won't consider them as disqualifying material. If you disagree with me about a particular judgment call, feel free to point out why - I'm not super familiar with everything, and Google can only do so much!
Lastly: you can comment here anonymously, and commenting here with your fandom does not qualify as an actual nomination. The tagset/collection for 2020 are not up yet, but I will add links to the pinned post once they are.
Arrowverse
The following otherwise eligible fandoms had appearances in it:
Batman (1966)
Superman (1978 – Returns)
Batman (Burton/Schumacher)
Flash (1990
Birds of Prey (2002)
Of them Batman (1966), Batman (Burton/Schumacher), and Birds of Prey (2002) only had brief cameos showing the worlds being destroyed.
Batman (1966) & Batman (Burton/Schumacher) - https://youtu.be/k54vZrbGb0Q
Birds of Prey - https://youtu.be/QLDzCqw6d8Y
The involvement of the Superman movies and 90s Flash are more substantial and plot relevant.
Re: Arrowverse
Can you elaborate on "substantial"?
Re: Arrowverse
For the record I'm not planning on nominating either the 90s Flash or Superman movies, but included them for completeness. I'll go ahead and do evidence for them.
90s Flash
In last year's crossover, called Elseworlds, the Monitor attacked Earth-90, the Earth of the 90s Flash. Barry fled and ended up on Earth-1. He warned CW Flash and the others about the Monitor. When he attacked the Monitor he disappeared.
He later reappeared this year for Crisis on Infinite Earths. The Anti-Monitor had captured him and was forcing him to run on a treadmill that was powering an antimatter canon that was destroying the multiverse.
Now, since season 1 of the CW Flash there had been a newspaper from the future that stated that the Flash would die on in a Crisis.
CW Flash prepares to go on the treadmill, where he would run it in reverse to destroy the canon.
However, 90s Flash instead offers to make the sacrifice. He gets back on the treadmill and runs until he dies, successfully destroying it. They show a clip from his show as he dies.
Superman
They are told they need the Paragons to save the multiverse. These are the seven greatest heroes in existence. Their search first takes them to the Smallville Earth, but that Clark isn't a paragon.
They then end up on the world of the Superman movies, with Brandon Routh resuming his role as Clark from Superman Returns (while Returns was only explicitly a sequel to 1 & 2, he also mentions the events of 3).
We find out that most of the Daily Planet staff were killed in an attack by a madman from Gotham.
The Lex Luthor from the Supergirl show followed them and uses a magic artifact to make the movie Superman fight the CW Superman. The others eventually get the book back and end the fight.
Movie Superman joins the heroes and goes to Arrowverse Earth-1. He spends the next two episodes with the heroes until the anti-matter wave hits Earth-1. In a last ditch effort the paragons are teleported away to a place outside of time.
When they get there Superman finds himself in pain. He dies in the arms of CW Supergirl. Lex then appears in his place, having used a piece of the artifact to take Superman's place as a paragon.
Later, after the multiverse is restored, we see Routh's Superman flying on his own Earth.
Re: Arrowverse
Since they seem to be explicitly continuing the story of 90s Barry Allen, and even giving him an ending, I would say that sufficiently disqualifies it. In fairness, I would probably disqualify Superman Returns, as well. But I'm open to counterarguments from anyone who would like to nominate either of these canons, since I haven't actually watched any of these shows, and so I may be missing some context.
Re: Arrowverse
I think I found all the relevant scenes for the two characters.
90s Flash Scenes
All Elseworlds Scenes - https://youtu.be/PfKj9YhcvJg
Rescuing 90s Flash - https://youtu.be/cRFPT5Fi2Uc
Black Lighting Helps Out - https://youtu.be/T6buDad5hZk
90s Flash Dies - https://youtu.be/DYxQVq3SAhA
All Routh Superman Scenes
From Parts 2 and 3 - https://youtu.be/rOemVfXt_Y8
Multiverse Restored - https://youtu.be/F7BpkcTlzDo